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RIP: russell means
« on: October 22, 2012, 02:08:23 PM »
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Hello our relatives. Our dad and husband, now walks among our ancestors. He began his journey to the spirit world at 4:44 am, with the Morning Star, at his home and ranch in Porcupine. There will be four opportunities for the people to honor his life, to be announced at a later date. Thank you for your prayers and continued support. We love you. As our dad and husband would always say, “May the Great Mystery continue to guide and protect the paths of you and your loved ones.”

Mitakuye Oyasin,

The wife and children of Russell Means

444 Crazy Horse Drive

Pahin Sinte, Republic of Lakotah


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Russell Means: Last of the Mohicans
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 03:06:01 PM »
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Great Spirit, Maker of All Life. A warrior goes to you swift and straight as an arrow shot into the sun. Welcome him and let him take his place at the council fire of my people. He is Uncas, my son. Tell them to be patient and ask death for speed; for they are all there but one - I, Chingachgook - Last of the Mohicans.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/dUJTamqdq8E" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/dUJTamqdq8E</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ah9XCamPyKA" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/ah9XCamPyKA</a>

And now, they are all there.

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Last of the Mohicans: Requiem for Russell Means
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2012, 02:19:31 AM »
Last of the Mohicans: Requiem for Russell Means now UP on the Diner Blog!

My homage and obituary for Russell Means, a REAL FIGHTER and Revolutionary of our time.

I can only HOPE I will be so honored as to meet him one day at the Council Fire in the Great Beyond.  A personal HERO to me and influence in my life, the only one near Hunter Thompson.

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Re: Last of the Mohicans: Requiem for Russell Means
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2012, 02:37:19 AM »
Last of the Mohicans: Requiem for Russell Means now UP on the Diner Blog!

My homage and obituary for Russell Means, a REAL FIGHTER and Revolutionary of our time.

I can only HOPE I will be so honored as to meet him one day at the Council Fire in the Great Beyond.  A personal HERO to me and influence in my life, the only one near Hunter Thompson.

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Before you get too carried away don't forget he was a Libertarian who ran for President at the party convention and came in second to Ron Paul.

You know what those ass hole Lib's are, people like GO, always talking shit like GOLD and aboloshing the Fed. They are bad friggin news for the environment too.

Control yourself!!

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Re: Last of the Mohicans: Requiem for Russell Means
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 02:47:16 AM »

Before you get too carried away don't forget he was a Libertarian who ran for President at the party convention and came in second to Ron Paul.

I'll NEVER FORGIVE Libertarians for choosing Ron Paul over Russell Means.

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Re: RIP: russell means
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2012, 03:00:09 AM »
As I was otherwise distracted back in 1973 by other issues, what I mostly remember about the stand off at Wounded Knee is the spin given to the news of the AIM group's efforts to publicize the modern plight of the Indians. The pressure in the main stream media was to portray Means and his group as latter day savages displaying one more time their ignorant savagery against the benevolent US government and its long suffering anglo- American people. This being my pre-enlightenment  era I tended to believe what the news agencies said about things.

However, having grown up in southern Arizona in the fifties, I was a true child of and a worshiper of the old West. Many westerns were shot in Old Tucson at the time. In fact my dad rode as as extra in some of them. My future father-in-law was part Yaqui and I spent lots of time with an old man who told stories from the 'old days'. Having known first hand the conditions on the reservation I could not reconcile the news stories and my own experiences. I believe this was the time when my reality began to crack around the edges.

I started to watch ER's clip of the last nine minutes of the movie. Then stopped. Since I own the movie I have decided that Last of the Mohicans will be shown tonight to my wife and friends. The last scenes in the movie are too powerful for me to watch twice in one day. Indeed, not only for Russell but for an entire people, REST IN PEACE.


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Re: RIP: russell means
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2012, 03:41:06 AM »
I started to watch ER's RE's clip of the last nine minutes of the movie. Then stopped. Since I own the movie I have decided that Last of the Mohicans will be shown tonight to my wife and friends. The last scenes in the movie are too powerful for me to watch twice in one day. Indeed, not only for Russell but for an entire people, REST IN PEACE.

Fixed your Dyslexia.  :icon_mrgreen:

Curious as to the demographics of the Family & Friends.  Any Young 'uns in there who never saw this film?  If so, would be interested to hear the reactions to it.

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Re: RIP: russell means
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2012, 10:58:26 AM »
thanks, RE.



here's a brief excerpt from a lovely eulogy I saw on decolonize oakland!, on a young woman named millie poor bear:

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A chill wind whipped thru Pine Ridge, slowing to caress the abandoned automobiles and boarded up shacks that litter the reservation before regaining its strength to scatter the abandoned hopes and dreams of the people who live there, scatter them like so many tumbleweeds. Tendrils of that wind seep into one of many disintegrating housing units, and we follow that wind inside.

Millie Poor Bear stands on a chair, tattooed hands making an adjustment to her final ensemble. It was a snug fit, but that was for the best. She gazed across the room into a cracked mirror that reflected back several Millie Poor Bears, ranging from a smiling round-faced toddler to the ravaged features of a once beautiful young woman. All had their stories to tell.

The tall man strides past the small child, whose upraised arms and pleading eyes signal her desperate need for affection. The child trails behind her father as he opens drawers and cupboards in an increasing frenzy, his anxiety curtailed by the discovery of a bottle of 30% alcohol mouthwash under the bathroom sink.

Dropping the now empty bottle into a bathtub, Lester Poor Bear notices his daughter gazing at him wide eyed. Bending down to scoop the child into his arms, he teeters bowlegged into the kitchen and returns to the cupboards, finding a can of government peanut butter with a little remaining at the bottom. Spreading it on a cracker and filling a bottle with water, he sets Millie onto his knee and gives her breakfast. The memory of these few moments will be treasured by the girl.


http://decolonizeoakland.org/2012/10/07/goodbye-millie-poor-bear/

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Re: RIP: russell means-Steve Lendman "Remembering Russell Means"
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2012, 04:35:06 PM »
I added Steve Lendman's Obituary "Remembering Russell Means " to the Last of the Mohicans: Requiem for Russell Means article.  It follows directly below my obituary.

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Re: RIP: russell means
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2012, 07:50:37 PM »
Indeed RIP Russel Means.
Hands down The last of the Mohicans is one of the most powerfully tragic movies I have seen, can't think of another ending that is more stirring than that one.

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Re: RIP: russell means
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 05:05:06 PM »
Came across the statement by Russell Means. Almost reminds of Morris Berman--

"The European materialist tradition of despiritualizing the universe is very similar to the mental process which goes into dehumanizing another person. And who seems most expert at de humanizing other people? And why? Soldiers who have seen a lot of combat learn to do this to the enemy before going back into combat. Murderers do it before going out to commit murder. Nazi SS guards did it to concentration camp inmates. Cops do it. Corporation leaders do it to the workers they send into uranium mines and steel mills.

Politicians do it to everyone in sight. And what the process has in common for each group doing the dehumanizing is that it makes it all right to kill and other wise destroy other people. One of the Christian commandments says, "Thou shalt not kill," at least not humans, so the trick is to mentally convert the victims into nonhumans. Then you can proclaim violation of your own commandment as a virtue.

In terms of the despiritualization of the universe, the mental process works so that it becomes virtuous to destroy the planet. Terms like progress and development are used as cover words here, the way victory and freedom are used to justify butchery in the dehumanization process. For example, a real estate speculator may refer to "developing" a parcel of ground by opening a gravel quarry; development here means total, permanent destruction, with the earth itself removed. But European logic has gained a few tons of gravel with which more land can be "developed" through the construction of road beds. Ultimately, the whole universe is open—in the European view—to this sort of insanity.

Most important here, perhaps, is the fact that Europeans feel no sense of loss in all this. After all, their philosophers have despiritualized reality, so there is no satisfaction (for them) to be gained in simply observing the wonder of a mountain or a lake or a people in being. No, satisfaction is measured in terms of gaining material. So the mountain becomes gravel, and the lake becomes coolant for a factory, and the people are rounded up for processing through the indoctrination mills Europeans like to call schools".
- Russell Means

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Re: RIP: russell means
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 06:03:59 PM »
Came across the statement by Russell Means. Almost reminds of Morris Berman--

Nice to see Russell remembered more than just for a day or two.  Thanks Surly.

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Re: RIP: russell means
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 06:45:49 PM »
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Nice to see Russell remembered more than just for a day or two.  Thanks Surly.

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I have found myself thinking of him more than once when I didn't expect to be.

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Re: RIP: russell means
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 08:20:39 PM »
Gents, all,

I was so struck by this statement that I posted it on the FB site. A new member posted the link below, which  links directly to an article from mother Jones published in 1980. Russell Means was clearly quite a remarkable man, and a very deep thinker indeed. Follow the link if you will, and read this. It's quite wonderful.

What this means is now I have to go find out more about Russell Means.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/russell-means-mother-jones-interview-1980?page=1

"I Am Not a Leader"
: Russell Means' 1980 Mother Jones Cover Story
In a provocative piece, the American Indian Movement activist lashed out at European "death culture" and the left.
—By Russell Means | Mon Oct. 22, 2012 12:33 PM PDT


THE ONLY POSSIBLE OPENING FOR a statement like this is that I detest writing. The process itself epitomizes the European concept of "legitimate thinking": what is written has an importance that is denied the spoken. My culture, the Lakota culture, has an oral tradition, so I ordinarily reject writing. It is one of the white world's ways of destroying the cultures of non-European peoples, the imposing of an abstraction over the spoken relationship of a people.

So what you read here is not what I've written. It's what I've said and someone else has written down. I will allow this because it seems that the only way to communicate with the white world is through the dead, dry leaves of a book. I don't really care whether my words reach whites or not. They have already demonstrated through their history that they cannot hear, cannot see; they can only read (of course, there are exceptions, but the exceptions only prove the rule). I'm more concerned with American Indian people, students and others, who have begun to be absorbed into the white world through universities and other institutions. But even then it's a marginal sort of concern. It's very possible to grow into a red face with a white mind; and if that's a person's individual choice, so be it, but I have no use for them. This is part of the process of cultural genocide being waged by Europeans against American Indian peoples today. My concern is with those American Indians who choose to resist this genocide, but who may be confused as to how to proceed. (You notice I use the term American Indian rather than Native American or Native indigenous people or Amerindian when referring to my people. There has been some controversy about such terms, and frankly, at this point, I find it absurd. Primarily it seems that American Indian is being rejected as European in origin—which is true. But all the above terms are European in origin; the only non-European way is to speak of Lakota—or, more precisely, of Oglala, Bruleě, etc.—and of the Dine, the Miccosukee, and all the rest of the several hundred correct tribal names.

(There is also some confusion about the word Indian, a mistaken belief that it refers somehow to the country, India. When Columbus washed up on the beach in the Caribbean, he was not looking for a country called India. Europeans were calling that country Hindustan in 1492. Look it up on the old maps. Columbus called the tribal people he met "Indio," from the Italian in dio, meaning "in God.")

It takes a strong effort on the part of each American Indian not to become Europeanized. The strength for this effort can only come from the traditional ways, the traditional values that our elders retain. It must come from the hoop, the four directions, the relations; it cannot come from the pages of a book or a thousand books. No European can ever teach a Lakota to be Lakota, a Hopi to be Hopi. A master's degree in "Indian Studies" or in "education" or in anything else cannot make a person into a human being or provide knowledge into the traditional ways. It can only make you into a mental European, an outsider.

The European materialist tradition of despiritualizing the universe is very similar to the mental process which goes into dehumanizing another person.
I should be clear about something here, because there seems to be some confusion about it. When I speak of Europeans or mental Europeans, I'm not allowing for false distinctions. I'm not saying that on the one hand there are the by-products of a few thousand years of genocidal, reactionary, European intellectual development which is bad; and on the other hand there is some new revolutionary intellectual development which is good. I'm referring here to the so-called theories of Marxism and anarchism and "leftism" in general. I don't believe these theories can be separated from the rest of the European intellectual tradition. It's really just the same old song. The process began much earlier. Newton, for example, "revolutionized" physics and the so-called natural sciences by reducing the physical universe to a linear mathematical equation. Descartes did the same thing with culture. John Locke did it with politics, and Adam Smith did it with economics. Each one of these "thinkers" took a piece of the spirituality of human existence and converted it into a code, an abstraction. They picked up where Christianity ended; they "secularized" Christian religion, as the "scholars" like to say—and in doing so they made Europe more able and ready to act as an expansionist culture. Each of these intellectual revolutions served to abstract the European mentality even further, to remove the wonderful complexity and spirituality from the universe and replace it with a logical sequence: one, two, three, Answer!

This is what has come to be termed "efficiency" in the European mind. Whatever is mechanical is perfect; whatever seems to work at the moment—that is, proves the mechanical model to be the right one—is considered correct, even when it is clearly untrue. This is why "truth" changes so fast in the European mind; the answers which result from such a process are only stop-gaps, only temporary, and must be continuously discarded in favor of new stop-gaps which support the mechanical models and keep them (the models) alive.

Hegel and Marx were heirs to the thinking of Newton, Descartes, Locke, and Smith. Hegel finished the process of secularizing theology—and that is put in his own terms—he secularized the religious thinking through which Europe understood the universe. Then Marx put Hegel's philosophy in terms of "materialism," which is to say that Marx despiritualized Hegel's work altogether. Again, this is in Marx' own terms. And this is now seen as the future revolutionary potential of Europe. Europeans may see this as revolutionary, but American Indians see it simply as still more of that same old European conflict between being and gaining. The intellectual roots of a new Marxist form of European imperialism lie in Marx's—and his followers'—links to the tradition of Newton, Hegel, and the others.

Being is a spiritual proposition. Gaining is a material act. Traditionally, American Indians have always attempted to be the best people they could. Part of that spiritual process was and is to give away wealth, to discard wealth in order not to gain. Material gain is an indicator of false status among traditional people, while it is "proof that the system works" to Europeans. Clearly, there are two completely opposing views at issue here, and Marxism is very far over to the other side from the American Indian view. But let's look at a major implication of this; it is not merely an intellectual debate.

The European materialist tradition of despiritualizing the universe is very similar to the mental process which goes into dehumanizing another person. And who seems most expert at de humanizing other people? And why? Soldiers who have seen a lot of combat learn to do this to the enemy before going back into combat. Murderers do it before going out to commit murder. Nazi SS guards did it to concentration camp inmates. Cops do it. Corporation leaders do it to the workers they send into uranium mines and steel mills. Politicians do it to everyone in sight. And what the process has in common for each group doing the dehumanizing is that it makes it all right to kill and other wise destroy other people. One of the Christian commandments says, "Thou shalt not kill," at least not humans, so the trick is to mentally convert the victims into nonhumans. Then you can proclaim violation of your own commandment as a virtue.

Read more by following the link above-- great stuff.

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Re: RIP: russell means
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2012, 03:36:44 AM »

I was so struck by this statement that I posted it on the FB site. A new member posted the link below, which  links directly to an article from mother Jones published in 1980. Russell Means was clearly quite a remarkable man, and a very deep thinker indeed. Follow the link if you will, and read this. It's quite wonderful.

What this means is now I have to go find out more about Russell Means.

I read the full Mother Jones article, and nothing really surprised me there.

It is instructive  to realize that Russell himself would not WRITE any of his thoughts down, and relied on others to write them.  He didn't like Writing and preferred the Oral Tradition.  So if you do try to ferret out more Russell Means thinking Surly, it will likely be hard to find.  Others will write Biographies of Russell Means, with their own interpretations, but Russell likely never wrote down his own thoughts on any of this stuff.  My best guess would be when he spoke, he always spoke extemporaneously with no preapared text, certainly no Teleprompter of course.

In fact for myself as a HUGE fan of Russell Means, during the Standoff with the FBI at Wounded Knee, I only heard him speak a few words on the TV.  It was his PRESENCE and obvious DEEP CONVICTION that affected me then, and caused me to look deeper into the False History I had been taught in school and been brainwashed into via the mass media, Film in particular.

Russell identified correctly that Marxism was just the Flip Side of the coin of Capitalism, and really no better a Mythology to pursue as a culture.  He also identified correctly that European Philosophy basically overwhelmed all the other cultures which did not have the same Acquisitive, Greedy tendencies which people raised in such cultures believe are "immutable" aspects of Human Nature.  The Sinful Nature of People that the Christians hold as Fundamental Truth.  It is not so, it is not Fundamental, it is Cultural.  We took a wrong path with Ag, and this resulted in a culture which rewards EVIL.  It is not a fundamental aspect of Human Nature though, and Russell Means saw that and spoke of it.

Sadly, we are so deep into this now it is very difficult to exit from, and the results of it are astonishingly bad of course.  Still, I do not believe Evil is inherent in Humans, I just think Humans are easily seduced by it in bad cultures.  It is a property of SYSTEMS, not the people themselves.  In this respect, Christianity is very, VERY wrong.

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