Tao,TAO,Tao. Where you been Man? We need to hear more from you. You stayed away so long I thought maybe all the Ponerologists had died and gone to heaven.Now. What did you say? That if I believe the death of the Uber Elites lie,ie financialization, means we are doomed, then I am arguing that the elites have a right to prey upon us. That is not my point at all. I tried to say that we are between two forks. If we believe that Men and animals are constructed in such a way that they cannot escape their hard wiring to dominate and seek gratification in preying on others even with a full stomach, then we cannot accept the assertion that behavior and morality as taught by religion is connected to reality. If, OTOH, we believe anydamn thing that appeals to us, such as life everlasting if we stop behaving in our hard wired manner, or that we don't have to follow the dictates of our biology,( Why haven't you been around to witness the defense of glorious sexual manhood) and can modify our self destructive and totally off the wall suicidal behavior, there is no way to verify that belief, clarify that belief or even come to consensus on that belief as the mere fact of lovely cultural diversity will show you. Combine the hardwiring with the undemonstrability of religion and what do you have? Total conflagration, Apocolypse, therefore DOOM. Don't tell me "He said, SHE said, yadda yadda." Tell me what is. Don't tell me what some pieces of papyrus, or sheepskin or stone pronounced thousands of years ago. And please don't tell me that you have your vacuum cleaner hose to your ear and its telling you something through your own special pipeline to God.